In this, the “Year for Priests,” we continue to get to know the priests who serve the Cathedral. Monsignor Richard Gilles officiates at Mass and shares his homilies with Cathedral parishioners and visitors.
As a boy growing up in rural Boyd, WI, near Chippewa Falls, he attended public schools. When he was in eighth grade, his pastor, during confession, asked him if he had ever considered the priesthood. A few years later, while attending the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire, Father Robert Cook, Vocation Director, talked to him about the priesthood. He realized he had a calling and transferred to the University of St. Thomas-St. John Vianney Seminary, St. Paul, MN, where he received a B.A. in Theology. His Masters of Divinity was received from St. Mary of the Lake Seminary, Mundelein, IL. One of his teachers was Father Jerome Listecki, who would later become the Bishop of La Crosse.
Msgr. Gilles was ordained at St. Joseph the Workman Cathedral by Bishop John Paul in 1994. Some years later, at the direction of now Archbishop Raymond Burke, he received his licentiate in Canon Law from the Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome, Italy.
Most of Msgr. Gilles’ service has been in challenging administrative duties, other than Chaplain and instructor at McDonell Central High School, Chippewa Falls, for three years and parochial Administrator of Sacred Heart Parish at Eau Claire for nine months.
He is the middle child in his family and has three sisters and one brother. Theirs is a very caring relationship and they enjoy time together. He is a farm boy at heart, having spent time on his grandfather’s farm and many years on an aunt’s farm. He enjoys milking cows, planting and landscaping. Biking and hiking are favorite pastimes. Archbishop Listecki introduced him to books on tape and he enjoys these during the many hours of driving. Favorite authors are James Patterson, John Grisham and David Baldacci.
The most difficult time in his ministry was the 2002 sexual abuse allegations. The public outrage, where many held all priests in disdain, affected the many good men in the priesthood.
The happiest time in his ministry is celebrating the sacraments. He enjoyed teaching high school students, working with teacher colleagues and the camaraderie of his fellow priests. A favorite scripture narration describes Jesus walking on water, reaching out to Peter and saying, “Do not be afraid.” It presumes Christ is with us; we are not alone.
Since Msgr. Gilles does not have a parish, he is drawn to the Cathedral to serve because of the warm hospitality, the beautiful liturgy and as a good example of a mother church, which sets a good tone for the Diocese. He feels he is needed. He also needs the Cathedral parishioners to be surrounded by good people. He values the prayers and welcomes the availability of lay members for consultation He is saddened by the departure of Archbishop Jerome Listecki, his teacher, mentor and friend, but knows that God has called him to serve the Milwaukee Archdiocese.
Msgr. Gilles has been elected Diocesan Administrator to govern the Diocese of La Crosse until a new Bishop is named. This shows the respect for him that is held by the College of Consultors, as well as recognition of his abilities, strong work ethic and reverence for the position.
As a parish, we are blessed by his presence. Please remember him in your prayers, as he fulfills this position, as he did previously, when Archbishop Raymond Burke was called to lead the Archdiocese of St. Louis, Missouri.
Msgr. Robert Hundt
Monsignor Robert Hundt is the oldest of thirteen children. His parents, Bernard and Catherine, were part of the farming community rich in the Catholic faith in the Middle Ridge area, twenty miles east of La Crosse. Led by hardworking parents, the Hundt children forged a work ethic, which instilled in them a desire to excel. Two of the Hundt boys were killed early in life. One was struck by a car at school, the other killed in a farm accident.
The Catholic faith was central to family life. Monsignor remembers clearly how hard a kitchen floor can be to young knees. The family rosary was a regular feature of family life, especially during Lent. Then there was paternal grandmother, Mary. She, the mother of fourteen, made it to Mass almost daily. Frequently, she would share a seat with Monsignor and his siblings, as they were taken to school in the family pickup hauling milk to the cheese factory, which was very near the school and the church.
The school Monsignor attended was a one-room country school taught by the Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration. One day, one of those good women, Sister Fernanda, noticed a young man carrying an unusually full school bag. She asked to see what was so heavy. It turned out that it was an assortment of comic books intended for a sick buddy. Sister said, “Robert, I always thought you could bring better things to people.” “What do you mean Sister?” “I think you should be a priest.” This happened in March of Monsignor’s eighth-grade year. A couple of weeks later the parish priest, Father Hugo Koehler, came to the Hundt farm at milking time. Monsignor was in the barn with his dad. The pastor spent a bit of time in small talk and then asked, “Bernie, what would you think if your best help on the farm went off to the seminary this fall?” The response was, “If that is what he wants, we would be thrilled.” The die was cast. That event propelled Monsignor into the unknown, but what was meant to be. Five months later he was a freshman in Holy Cross Seminary located, at that time, at 1419 Cass Street.
Forty-nine years later Monsignor was asked how he saw his experience of the priesthood today. He said, “For me, priesthood is to celebrate the Mass and sacraments and preach. All the rest is marginal. These things have always been my greatest interest in the priesthood, and doing these things has provided for me the greatest joy and satisfaction in the priesthood.” Along the way Monsignor has been in large and small parishes and has built a rectory, parish centers, school and gymnasium, and remodeled and renovated churches; but there really wasn’t much thrill in all that. Monsignor says what he finds amazing is that the Mass, sacraments and preaching become more and more fulfilling as the days, months and years go by.
A brief tour of Monsignor’s life reveals he spent the first four years of his priestly life in Wisconsin Rapids at St. Vincent de Paul Parish. The pastor was Father Carl Dockendorff, a native son of La Crosse. Then it was off to Wausau for seventeen years. Ten of those were spent as instructor at Newman High School. In the tenth summer of that stretch, Bishop Freking asked Monsignor if he would prefer to stay at the high school or assume the pastorate of St. Matthew Parish. He jumped at the opportunity to be pastor, and so began a seven-year period until a day in March of 1982, a Sunday, when Monsignor was watching the Bucks and the Celtics. The phone rang and a familiar voice asked, “What are you doing?” “Watching a basketball game.” “Who’s playing?” “The Bucks and the Celtics.” “Who is winning?” Monsignor responded to this by saying, “Bishop, if you tell me why you are calling I will tell you who is winning.” Well, the Bishop had in mind that Monsignor go off to Rome to study canon law. And so it happened that in September of 1982 Monsignor was the oldest guy in his class at the University of St. Thomas in Rome. In 1984 that adventure was finished, and on July 10, 1984, Monsignor stepped into an office at the Diocesan Center, which he still occupies. Along the way Monsignor tended the people of God in Bangor, Middle Ridge, Coon Valley, St. Joseph Ridge, and finally Blessed Sacrament here in the city. On May 1, 2007, he left Blessed Sacrament to work full-time at the Marriage Tribunal where he holds the title of Judicial Vicar.
Monsignor says he was less than one week out of Blessed Sacrament when Father Gorman called and asked if he would be available to celebrate a Mass at the Cathedral. Monsignor said, “Of course.” That invitation has developed into almost a daily presence at the Cathedral for Mass and many times for a stint in the confessional. “This is a priest’s life at its very best,” Monsignor says.
Asked about the life of a priest in today’s world, Monsignor said the priest must recognize he is an alien person in a strange land because of the deepening secularization of our society. The priest must not fear being politically incorrect. Asked what his greatest achievement has been in this regard, Monsignor said, “Survival, by God’s grace.”
Survival is what Monsignor has achieved in over twenty-five years of service in the Marriage Tribunal. He hopes to spend another decade at that desk, God willing. As that goes on, he will probably continue to be a presence at the Cathedral for Mass and for that which Monsignor sees as a distinct characteristic of the Cathedral Parish—the sacrament of penance. It is clear that the parish is a mecca for many of a wide area who are seeking the spiritual healing only the sacrament of penance can provide. Monsignor is happy to be part of that healing ministry at our parish.
Survival is what Monsignor has achieved in over twenty-five years of service in the Marriage Tribunal. He hopes to spend another decade at that desk, God willing. As that goes on, he will probably continue to be a presence at the Cathedral for Mass, and for that which Monsignor sees as a distinct characteristic of the Cathedral Parish—the sacrament of penance. It is clear that the parish is a mecca for many of a wide area who are seeking the spiritual healing only the sacrament of penance can provide. Monsignor is happy to be part of that healing mystery at our parish.
Msgr. Bernard McGarty
A native of La Crosse, Wisconsin, Bernard McGarty grew up in St. Mary Parish, attended St. Mary’s elementary school and graduated from Aquinas High School. He attended Loras College in Dubuque, majoring in philosophy. At some point in his college years he was drawn to study theology and decided to give the seminary “a try.” He enrolled in Kenrick Seminary, St. Louis, MO. On May 14, 1949, he was ordained a priest for the La Crosse Diocese by Bishop John P. Treacy.
After ordination he was assigned to a variety of positions both at the parish level and in the diocesan curia. He taught high school, was associate pastor in several parishes and pastor in three different assignments for thirty plus years. He considers his greatest achievement the building of St. Matthew Church in Wausau and establishing that parish. At the diocesan level he served as Vocation Director and taught at Holy Cross Seminary. He worked in the Curia as Director of Communication and Ecumenism. In that position he managed the radio programs, began the TV Masses and was editor of the diocesan newspaper, the Times Review, which is now the Catholic Times. While he was editor the Times received the General Excellence Award.
Monsignor McGarty has his doctorate in systematic theology from the Angelicum University in Rome. He has written three books: John Donne–Persuasive Preacher; Meditations on Lenten Weekdays; and Biking and Canoeing in Western Wisconsin. He has written and produced two biblical plays.
His hobbies are many and varied. He swims, golfs and, until recently, was an avid skier. Unfortunately an accident this spring has sidelined him from that activity. He prefers poetry to prose, particularly that of Shakespeare and Gerard Manley Hopkins. He is historian, philosopher, preacher, teacher, communicator.
Blessed Sacrament Parish, here in La Crosse, was his last assignment as pastor. He served there until his retirement in 1999 at age 74, the 50th year of his beloved priesthood. One might question “retirement” with reference to Monsignor McGarty. Currently he is the Visiting Scholar in Ecumenical Studies at Viterbo University. His next lecture there is “Cardinal Avery Dulles, A Theologian for All Seasons” this fall. He assists at Blessed Sacrament; Villa Saint Joseph; Saint Rose Convent; St. Mary’s, Park City, Utah; our Cathedral; and fills in when necessary at other parishes. He has revived the TV Masses with the help of then Bishop Jerome Listecki. He heads up the Organ Fund Drive for the new organs to be installed at the Cathedral this summer. His great joy is celebrating Mass with a congregation.
The stained glass windows are the outstanding feature of the Cathedral in his estimation. Designed for the Cathedral by our own diocesan priests, he finds them beautiful works of art that are catechetical aids and significant historical markers of the Church on earth.
Thank you for celebrating with us, Monsignor.
On his chalice he has written in Latin a prayer that should be on our lips daily: “What can I return to the Lord for all the has done for me?” (Quid retribuam Domino pro omnibus quae retribuit mihi?) Psalm 116:12.
Fr. Michael Gorman
Fr. Michael Gorman was ordained May 17, 1980, for the Diocese of La Crosse. His first permanent assignment was at Blessed Sacrament in La Crosse beginning August 5, 1980. He was at Blessed Sacrament for just under 4 years, and then in 1984 was assigned to study canon law in Rome at the Pontifical Gregorian University. He was slated to attend language school in Rome; but Msgr. Wagener said that since he’d be in Rome for two years, why not let him go somewhere else? So Florence, as a cultural center and birthplace of the Italian language, was selected. Many people attending language school as a preparation to further studies only went for one month; but then Fr. Burke recommended two months as being much better than one; so on July 31 he arrived in Florence. After two months he went on to Rome, receiving his licentiate in canon law in 1986. In Rome the classes were in Latin. Fr. Gorman recalls having Latin classes with Fr. Reginald Foster from Milwaukee, who is a world-renowned Latin scholar and a great linguist in general. Being with Fr. Foster was the highlight of his time in Italy–Fr. Foster called his classes “experiences,” and that’s what they were. “I certainly learned more Latin from him than from anyone,” Fr. Gorman relates. “The first year [of canon law] was very difficult and tiring, but the second year seemed effortless.”
When he returned in 1986 he was assigned to the Matrimonial Tribunal as Auditor–which was the principal reason he was sent to study canon law in the first place, as the new Code of Canon Law required that certain tribunal personnel have a licentiate in canon law. He was also appointed secretary and master of ceremonies to the Bishop. In 1988 he was appointed Chancellor, although he continued to do some work for the tribunal. As Chancellor he was secretary to the curia, and became secretary to the presbyteral council, the college of deans and the St. Joseph’s Priest Fund–he went to a lot of meetings during this time. Under Bishop Raymond Burke he was appointed moderator of the curia in 1997 and Sr. Marlene Weisenbeck took over as chancellor, the first non-priest to hold that position in our diocese. He was full time in the curia for 15 years: moderator until 2001 (4 yrs), Judge instructor for the tribunal, chancellor for 9 years, acting director of the Office of Sacred Worship, and secretary of the fifth diocesan synod. In 1995 he started teaching Latin at Aquinas in support of the new Holy Cross Seminary House of Formation.
When Fr. Richard Gilles returned from Rome with a degree in canon law, he started taking some of the duties that Fr. Gorman had held. Fr. Gorman was next assigned as pastor at St. Mary’s in Viroqua, but this before all of the fifth-synod documents were finalized; so he had that project going on as he moved to Viroqua, as well as continuing to teach Latin at Aquinas and directing the Office of Sacred Worship. He spent two years in Viroqua commuting every day, teaching at Aquinas and spending time at the Diocesan Center on synod or Office of Sacred Worship business. Eventually the Synod book was finished, and Chris Carstens took over the Office of Sacred Worship. In 2003 Bishop Burke then asked him to be Rector at the Cathedral. It was a good fit, with Fr. Gorman’s liturgical experience as master of ceremonies, as well as his having helped out at the Cathedral with daily and weekend Masses for many years.
Highs and Lows, but Mostly Highs
“The thing that I have always enjoyed the most is liturgical ceremonies. My favorite job was being MC. I think I did a good job of that. I helped to introduce some practices around the diocese that people felt they could do when they saw how it could be done: an example is the Gospel procession. A bishop’s liturgy is supposed to set an example, so we would bring our own gospel book because at that time a lot of parishes didn’t have one. At that time liturgy in some places had just descended into…a low, sorry state…So we would come, arriving 45 minutes before the ceremony began, and I would practice with the servers, walk them through everything. The pastors were really impressed with what their servers could do, and things like the gospel procession. They saw how it could be done and they would say, ‘I think I’m going to do that.’ I think we helped to raise, to a certain extent, the level of liturgical practice in the diocese by doing that. Some of those guys I used to train became seminarians and became ordained; some of course are still in the seminary. I enjoyed that…I’ve enjoyed the liturgical aspect of the priesthood always.” Bishop Listecki has mentioned often how much he appreciates how well liturgy is conducted at the Cathedral.
“Having funerals for your own relatives and your parents is difficult, but as far as the tribunal situation–that was probably my least favorite thing, taking those testimonies and bringing all that stuff up–that was a grind for two years. But I can’t think of anything that has been a really negative experience.”
How He Got Here
Awareness of his vocation began when he started serving Mass in the fifth grade. From that point forward the priesthood was always there. Growing up in a country parish, in an Irish community, everything revolved around the parish church. Priests were always invited to dinners and gatherings, so he had ongoing contact with priests and never lost sight of what God wanted him to do. By the time he was in the eighth grade he had already decided that he wanted to be a priest, but he didn’t do anything about it until he was a senior in high school. In the meantime, in 1969, he became one of the first lay readers in his parish (his father signed him up for that) and continued in his conviction that the priesthood was where God wanted him to be. He then went to college seminary at St. Francis de Sales in Milwaukee and then to theology at the Saint Paul Seminary in St. Paul.
Favorite Scripture Narratives
“I always liked the story of Zacchaeus and what it was used for–the Mass for the dedication of a church–and why it is in the window in the Cathedral: ‘Today salvation has come to this house.’ For the past several weeks these passages from the letter to the Hebrews on the priesthood of Jesus Christ: the whole theology of the priesthood is there. Of course our priesthood is a participation in the priesthood of Jesus Christ–just to understand from that why the liturgy is at the very heart of our faith. The Second Vatican Council says it is the source and summit of the Church’s life. And it is all in the scriptures; the theology of it is right there in the letter to the Hebrews. The more I read that, the more impressed I am, I guess, about how the Church has been faithful to that and has preserved the reality of what the sacrifice of the Mass is from the very beginning. And like I say, the Mass, the liturgy has always been my favorite thing.
“The liturgy has always been the most fun for me and I feel bad that so many people don’t seem to appreciate what it’s all about, why it’s so important and how life-giving it is. That’s evident in the fact that so many people just don’t bother to come anymore. I don’t understand why that is the case because we have such a treasure.”
Characteristics of the Cathedral Parish
“The liturgy, the building, the fact that it is the Bishop’s church and our opportunities for principal diocesan celebrations and connection with the bishop, outstanding music, generosity of the people who are active in the parish–they are committed and generous with their time and certainly financially. They are proud of our church and proud of what we have here.”
Another area of the Cathedral Parish that Fr. Gorman is very proud of is the community outreach and assistance of which the parish is so supportive. From the Front Door Ministry to Coats for Kids, WAFER to Causeway, A Place of Grace to Jail Ministry, Cathedral parishioners have proven generous with their time as well as their money.
Fr. Todd Mlsna
Father Todd Mlsna was born in Viroqua and then his family moved to Sparta. When he was a freshman in high school, he felt “God was tugging at my heartstrings”; but he was afraid to do it at first. Then his senior year he accepted God’s call. He attended the Immaculate Heart of Mary Seminary at St. Mary’s College in Winona from 1988 to 1993 and then graduate seminary in St. Paul from 1993 to 1998. He felt like quitting about three times because of lack of support to tape record the lectures. Father Mlsna cannot take notes due to an eye condition he has had since birth. He was ordained for the La Crosse Diocese on November 7, 1998, by then Bishop Burke. He became a priest to teach and preach the Gospel. From 1998 to 2002 he served parttime at St. John the Baptist in Marshfield and at Christ the King in Spencer as associate pastor in those parishes, as well as chaplain at St. Joseph Hospital. From 2002 to 2003 he did his clinical work in pastoral education at Gundersen Lutheran. This was a difficult time in his ministry as he was discouraged from wearing his collar. He had to assert himself in order to wear it. He learned then how to be himself.
In July of 2002 Father Mlsna started at the Cathedral as priest in residence with Father Robert Cook. This was one of the highlights of his ministry as Father Cook cooked meals for the both of them. Right now he celebrates the 6:30 a.m. Mass at the Cathedral on various days of the week. He also hears confessions every Saturday for ½ hour. In October of 2003 he started at Franciscan Skemp as staff chaplain and currently fulfills this role together with his service at the Cathedral. In September of 2000 he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. He “was a wreck at first,” but learned to cope with it. He copes with his eye condition as well.
Another highlight of his ministry was concelebrating Mass for World Mission Sunday with Pope John Paul II in 2000. Also he got to sing the Exsultet at the Easter Vigil for three years because there was not a deacon at the time. His favorite sacrament is baptism. Along with singing, Fr. Mlsna loves babies. And he loves using incense. One of his favorite scriptures is Matthew 11:28-30: “Come to me all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Two of his favorite hobbies are sports and classical music. Not only is he a season-ticket holder for the La Crosse Symphony, but also a season-ticket holder for the La Crosse Loggers. The characteristic of the Cathedral he finds most outstanding is the quality of the liturgy, done by the book and following the church mandate. Father Mlsna loves the Cathedral and is blessed to have a good rector in Father Gorman and good people.
What we can do for him as parishioners is to step forward to fulfill needs of the parish and keep the church going.
Thank you Father Mlsna for serving the Cathedral.
Fr. Samuel Martin
Fr. Samuel Martin is the second of five children. He was born on August 9, 1973, and grew up on the family farm near Prairie du Chien, which his older brother still farms after their parents retired. His siblings are all married and he is the proud uncle of eleven nephews and one niece.
In third grade he thought that it might be “neat” to be a priest. The thought lingered and his vocation was nurtured by a supportive family. He and his father went to a presentation given by the vocation director of Holy Name High School Seminary in Madison and it was decided that he would attend. He graduated high school from there in 1991. In 1995 he earned degrees in theology and philosophy from the University of St. Thomas (St. John Vianney Seminary) in St. Paul, Minnesota. As diocesan vocation directors Fr. Robert Cook and Fr. John Parr were supportive and provided excellent role models and encouragement for him.
Discernment for his priestly vocation continued during these college years and in the fall of 1995 he went to Rome for his theology; was ordained a deacon in October, 1998; and returned home in 1999. He was ordained by then Bishop Raymond Burke as a priest for the La Crosse diocese on June 26, 1999. While in Rome he earned a S.T.B. in Theology from the Gregorian University in 1998. After ordination he returned to Rome to finish his studies and in 2000 earned a S.T.L. in Moral Theology from the John Paul II Institute.
Back home in Wisconsin he was assigned to Assumption High School in Wisconsin Rapids, where he taught religion until 2002. He was then assigned as Director of the Holy Cross Seminary House of Formation and Chaplain of Aquinas High School, positions he has held to the present. The art of living and working with the students is both challenge and joy, a test of endurance and skill, an expression of love and faith. A downside to being in a school situation is that the population is in constant flux and there are no long-lasting relationships with families which develop as compared to being a parish priest. One of the joys, however, is watching the students mature, leave and comeback as young adults seeking his participation in the sacraments–particularly marriage and baptism of their children.
An avid reader, Father Martin gets up early to read and enjoy his coffee before the students are ready for the day ahead. History, particularly church history, lives of the saints and stories of redemption are among his favorite genre. As a high school student he enjoyed all kinds of team sports and track, but now he is content to hike and be a spectator. Traveling, mission trips with students, and service projects that meld all walks of people into the project are activities that interest him.
When asked why he serves at the Cathedral, he first mentioned Fr. Gorman, whom he has known since his youth. It was Fr. Gorman who trained him to be an altar server for the bishop. He went on to mention the diversity of the parish and its welcoming atmosphere as the mother church of the Diocese. He added many of the parish functions that he attends with his seminarians–the Stations of the Cross and soup suppers, Cathedral Forums. He finds the liturgies and music beautiful. The day set aside during Advent and Lent for all-day confessions is a significant sacramental outreach for the deanery and he is grateful to be a part of it.
Fr. Martin asked for prayers from the Cathedral parishioners. The most difficult of times in his ministry are those instances when hurt or harm has been caused to someone seeking help or guidance from a priest. Throughout the interview glimpses of Father Martin’s deep and profound faith were evident. He spoke about being used as an instrument to bring Christ to the students through study, recreation and service. He sees the work of God in an infant’s development of language and motor skills, in the burst of spring after a long winter, the beauty of nature, the creativity and service of man. His favorite songs: Veni Creator and “O God Beyond All Praising” reflect not only his faith, but the Holy Spirit guiding him in his ministry.
Thank you, Father Martin, for the service you give us at the Cathedral and in La Crosse.
St. John Vianney, pray for us.
Fr. Jude Weisenbeck
Father Jude Weisenbeck was born in Durand, Wisconsin. He has four sisters, two of whom are Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration. He is grateful to his parents who fostered religious vocations in his family. After attending Catholic elementary school he went to the seminary and was ordained a priest for the Society of the Divine Savior in 1960.
His assignments took him all over the United States. He served in Tennessee; Kentucky; Maryland; New Jersey and Waukesha, Wisconsin. He was assigned in Switzerland and Rome. At one time he was a member of the St. Thomas University Administration. He could recall no difficult assignment and replied: “It was all a piece of cake.”
Each day is his happiest. Retirement brought him back to his native Wisconsin and family. His days are busy serving at the Villa St. Joseph, St. Joseph Nursing Home, St. Rose Convent and here at the Cathedral.
Father Weisenbeck has many favorites. Among them are:
Scripture quote: John 17:3: “Now this is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”
Psalm 23: “The Lord Is My Shepherd”
Bible Book: Jonah
Song: “Amazing Grace”
Favorite Book: Autobiography of Archbishop Rembert Weakland
Hobby: Woodworking
Father Weisenbeck finds the Cathedral windows outstandingly beautiful.
Thank you, Father Weisenbeck, for celebrating with us here at the Cathedral.